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Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

• We have a bunch of breaker panels, some are not obviuous to find, and some are not even in our space but control some of our circuits.
• Would be nice to encode each as infrastructure tool, with location, and with at least the most unexpected info about them documented on the page.
• If we build this we might want to consider instructions such as whether a popped breaker is a cause for a near miss, since it generally means something went wrong, and it would allow us to track any patterns. Could put QR on panels to incident form.

Marney

We have a Clean Work Table Policy

• Projects in Progress what can you leave
• Assembly table instructions to keep them clean - this is actually very similar to the Clamps policy... which we should treat similar to this
• Progressive discipline what will happen if not followed
• Alternatives such as
  • Rentable member storage
  • Temporary Large Sheet Storage
  • Temporary Long Lumber Storage

If you agree that these address all of the clean worktable policy then could we eliminate it as its own policy?

If we agree that it can go, we need to re-define Member Council Clean Work Table Lead.

• I think that longer-term storage in this cart is OK - some members have products that they sell regularly and would require a custom spoilboard/fixture. How should we handle this? Maybe ask that they "renew" by labelling freshly every 30 days, so old unused boards do not get forgotten
  • I have started to do that, but that means contacting people every 30 days only to have them choose the easy route of "yes still need it". The cart is full now, so we kind of need a different way. Ttenbergen (talk) 11:18, 2024 August 13 (CDT)

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Marney We had talked about a process for items in storage when your membership ends or you haven't paid for your spot - was a decision made? Tina had suggested a warning to the (former) member, with a set timeline, after which we would hire our garbage removal people to remove the items and forward the bill for this. Can we settle on this?

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Epoxy Room/Precautions pulls into the tool portion of this page; maybe the tool template should pull this into the instruction portion instead. The idea is that when a whole room is affected by a hazard, we should really store it at the room level, and if it is stored at the room level, we shouldn't re-apply it at the tool level.

We need a page for this!

• Maybe the following will work.
  • John and Tina should talk about discussions onthe wiki, there are several options.
  • I meant this page almost as a general precautions page. The things you wrote are great and should be the instructions for the individual tools I think - for some I don't have pages yet. But my concern was more that we fuss to collect dust at the source but then make messes disposing of the dust. Are there best practices? For example, the bag in the wide belt sander extractor is so large to be just about unmanageable. And even for the others, beating out a vacuum filter on the inside of the garbage can releases a lot of dust. So, what is our deal? This might be related to the use of compressed air to clean things discussion.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

• We'll either need to find a way to link this to most rooms, or better yet, make it eye hazard dependent and link it that way... TT needs to think about this some more.
  • There is a maps functionality for the wiki, and it can use any base map we want with coordinates. So we would be able to display e.g. tools or safety equipment via coordinate. I had thought about adding this initially but decided not to follow that squirrel for now. Let me know if I should reconsider that. Ttenbergen (talk) 22:42, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
• Rooms and locations listed for convenience, there's probably a better way to do this in terms of the Wiki. John has also taken photos of the locations in case that's helpful later.
  • That would be helpful later, because for the map we would probably encode each as its own "tool" (even if that stretches that category a bit), so a photo on there would be helpful. Ttenbergen (talk) 22:42, 2024 August 13 (CDT)

Doug pointed out that we may not have good documentation on these, let's change that. Here is a start...

This should contain instructions on how to use the eye wash stations. It should probably also include whom to notify, and a link to the incident form, since use of a wash station would warrant a form. Maybe the form is how we find out that they were used, too.

As much as that is internal info, I think it might also be good to add if we have spares on hand, and possibly where we get them.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

this needs more work...

• safe handling, assume it's not safe, gloves etc

• empty bins when (how full?)

• location for empty garbage bags

• two carts upstairs, one for sheet goods. Notify when full. Do we have any thoughts on the acceptability of just leaving bags in front of the cart?

• looks like we are using that box cart on 1 for garbage now. Is that a thing?

• guidelines about breaking things down so there are no sharp corners and max sizes for hard stuff in bags

• guidelines about securing bags with sawdust and not overfilling them so they aren't too heavy to put in the collection bin

• garbage pickup

• own page about recycling and electronics recycling or on here?

• food garbage restrictions

• replace lids where present, either for safety as in metal room, or or fruit flies elsewhere

• metal recycling (would be nice if this went with an option to put still useful stock into a pool like the Stock Metal Stash

• fire wood bins - contents free for all to take, only add untreated

• Sharps Disposal Station

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Safety Marney

• How would one assess the "as required"? dust in the air remains after a previous member leaves, right? So how would a member know when not to use a respirator in there? I can see where Fred is only required when welding or similar, so maybe it should not be a room level precaution but specific to tools like welders? Ttenbergen (talk) 22:59, 2024 August 13 (CDT)
  • Where do you see "as required"? (Marney)
    • I meant the "may require". If we put particles in the air they don't just affect the person using a specific tool, and not only for the duration of tool use. The smaller a particle the deeper it can get into the lungs and the longer it will be suspended, and some of the smallest stay suspended for hours or days. My quote "as required" may have been from before John updated this to clarify as per next line. Ttenbergen (talk) 13:59, 2024 October 3 (CDT)
  • Updated to clarify what is required at all times vs what may be required John Hache (talk)
    • Some other equipment prohibits the use of gloves. I think this section should only have the requirement for the whole room, e.g. respirators in the woodworking room. I can't think of any hazard in this room like that, short of the facility-wide requirement to wear steel toed shoes.

Safety Marney

• I changed that a bit, but really still not sure if it's reasonable. You may be working there and then someone else shows up and starts to work. Should you stop what you are doing and chat with them? I would not even notice they are there. So maybe the answer is, expect a hazard and wear the appropriate PPE in this space.

Safety Marney

• If we require an IR thermometer (welding) we should label it it as safety item not to be removed. By adding the tool page to the Category:Safety we have added it to our Safety Inspection checklist. Is there actually one down there? Yes, it should be. I haven't looked lately but I did buy one.

Epoxy Room/Precautions pulls into the tool portion of this page; maybe the tool template should pull this into the instruction portion instead. The idea is that when a whole room is affected by a hazard, we should really store it at the room level, and if it is stored at the room level, we shouldn't re-apply it at the tool level.

Adding this to the discussion list so we know it needs work.

This page will eventually contain information on general FDM printing theory, like why support material is used or why Z-gap is important. Specific machine instructions will be associated with their appropriate page.

This page might also not end up existing. Let's see what the future brings.